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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 5) by Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 7 and conclusion) &#171; RedRebelRanter</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-5/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 7 and conclusion) &#171; RedRebelRanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] revolutions were much more radical, went much deeper, than the Venezuela events up to now (part 5 of this series); I also tried to show that there have been much more important turning points for the Left than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] revolutions were much more radical, went much deeper, than the Venezuela events up to now (part 5 of this series); I also tried to show that there have been much more important turning points for the Left than [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 6) by brian4all</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/06/01/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-6/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>brian4all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there is a contradiction between (a) supporting the progressive Venezuelan reforms, and (b) warning against mistaken evaluations of it. The process should be supported, but we should not imagine it to be more developed than it actually is, nor independent from the world totality of relations. Some socialists however are overcheering it both ways.

One can easily be misled by the picture on the SWNZ-blog of an anarchist holding a banner &quot;neither Bush nor Chavez&quot;. At least I found it very very confusing (almost even rude) of SWNZ to add this photo to the comments, suggesting this slogan supposedly sums up the position taken in the lengthy RedRebelRanter comments. However, after reading the comments, they clearly show the support for the Bolivarian Revolution, and show what actually does widen the space for it to continue further, secure and go beyond. It is absolutely absurd to present this position as &quot;Venezuela is a non-issue&quot; or as &quot;neither Bush nor Chavez&quot;. (Come on! As if IST-comrades ever took the similarly absurd positions of &quot;neither Pinochet nor Allende&quot; in 1973 and &quot;Chili is a non-issue&quot;!?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there is a contradiction between (a) supporting the progressive Venezuelan reforms, and (b) warning against mistaken evaluations of it. The process should be supported, but we should not imagine it to be more developed than it actually is, nor independent from the world totality of relations. Some socialists however are overcheering it both ways.</p>
<p>One can easily be misled by the picture on the SWNZ-blog of an anarchist holding a banner &#8220;neither Bush nor Chavez&#8221;. At least I found it very very confusing (almost even rude) of SWNZ to add this photo to the comments, suggesting this slogan supposedly sums up the position taken in the lengthy RedRebelRanter comments. However, after reading the comments, they clearly show the support for the Bolivarian Revolution, and show what actually does widen the space for it to continue further, secure and go beyond. It is absolutely absurd to present this position as &#8220;Venezuela is a non-issue&#8221; or as &#8220;neither Bush nor Chavez&#8221;. (Come on! As if IST-comrades ever took the similarly absurd positions of &#8220;neither Pinochet nor Allende&#8221; in 1973 and &#8220;Chili is a non-issue&#8221;!?)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 6) by Renegade Eye</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/06/01/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-6/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Renegade Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this blog surfing.

I support the Venezuelan revolution, at the same time see your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this blog surfing.</p>
<p>I support the Venezuelan revolution, at the same time see your point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 3) by keesjemaduraatje</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/05/26/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-3/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>keesjemaduraatje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not campaigning against muslims. You know that. I am campaigning against terrorisme. That is something completely different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not campaigning against muslims. You know that. I am campaigning against terrorisme. That is something completely different.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 3) by Brian4all</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/05/26/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-3/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian4all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keesjemaduraatje (above) is a known right-wing bigot, actively campaigning against muslims, with a hatred for anything leftist. 
Don&#039;t let it spoil a good discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keesjemaduraatje (above) is a known right-wing bigot, actively campaigning against muslims, with a hatred for anything leftist.<br />
Don&#8217;t let it spoil a good discussion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 3) by keesjemaduraatje</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/05/26/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-3/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>keesjemaduraatje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 11:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in fact the Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela shows more and more socialist characteristics, as Chavez is now trying to forbid the free-press and is taking contrl over more and more parts of society. The comparison with the Soviet-revolution is no nonsense.
Now the agricultural companies should be collectivised and the other companies nationalized and the hunger and poorness can start doing their work. Good chance that he will throw out the Trotskist as a next step. I would suggest to flee to Mexico, for historical and traditional reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in fact the Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela shows more and more socialist characteristics, as Chavez is now trying to forbid the free-press and is taking contrl over more and more parts of society. The comparison with the Soviet-revolution is no nonsense.<br />
Now the agricultural companies should be collectivised and the other companies nationalized and the hunger and poorness can start doing their work. Good chance that he will throw out the Trotskist as a next step. I would suggest to flee to Mexico, for historical and traditional reasons.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 3) by Joe C</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/05/26/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-3/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 14:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not the ISO, its Socialist Worker, Aotearoa.
Our website is at http://www.unityaotearoa.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not the ISO, its Socialist Worker, Aotearoa.<br />
Our website is at <a href="http://www.unityaotearoa.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.unityaotearoa.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 3) by peterstorm</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/05/26/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-3/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>peterstorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know. That is why I started all this. Part 4 will go into that, and part 5 as well, probably...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know. That is why I started all this. Part 4 will go into that, and part 5 as well, probably&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venezuela: don&#8217;t overdo it, comrades (part 3) by louisproyect</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/05/26/venezuela-dont-overdo-it-comrades-part-3/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>louisproyect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 22:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ISO in New Zealand has an entirely different take on Venezuela:

http://socialistunity.blogspot.com/2007/05/swps-international-divided-over.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ISO in New Zealand has an entirely different take on Venezuela:</p>
<p><a href="http://socialistunity.blogspot.com/2007/05/swps-international-divided-over.html" rel="nofollow">http://socialistunity.blogspot.com/2007/05/swps-international-divided-over.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What is going on here? by louisproyect</title>
		<link>http://peterstorm.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/what-is-going-on-here/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>louisproyect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 23:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just noticed this comment from a pingback on my blog. I am not really interested in a lengthy reply but do want to clarify one thing. I did not view Sandinista Nicaragua as &quot;socialist&quot;. It was a mixed economy. The most revolutionary thing about it was a rebel army in power, just as was the case in Cuba in 1959. Unlike Cuba, the geopolitical circumstances did not favor a transition to socialism. My thoughts on this can be found at:

http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/state_and_revolution/nicaragua.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just noticed this comment from a pingback on my blog. I am not really interested in a lengthy reply but do want to clarify one thing. I did not view Sandinista Nicaragua as &#8220;socialist&#8221;. It was a mixed economy. The most revolutionary thing about it was a rebel army in power, just as was the case in Cuba in 1959. Unlike Cuba, the geopolitical circumstances did not favor a transition to socialism. My thoughts on this can be found at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/state_and_revolution/nicaragua.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/state_and_revolution/nicaragua.htm</a></p>
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